" I believe that my position on choice is one that is consistent with my Catholic upbringing, which said that every person has a free will and has the responsibility to live their own lives in a way that they would have to account for in the end."
The above is what Nancy "Total Failure" "Pope" Pelosi said when challenged on her extreme pro-abortion views, and asked to explain how those views are consistent with her clamim to be a Catholic. The above quote revealed that Pelosi is NOT a Catholic, and is not even religious. In fact, she is an anti-Catholic BIGOT.
The above statement was made BEFORE Pelosi when o Meet the Press and showed just how far she is willing to LIE about the Catholic Church in an effort to trash Catholic beliefs (see last week's entry repeated at the end of this entry).
Nancy Plosi told Tom Brokaw that she had made a "long study" of the position of the Catholic Church on when life begins, and had determined that the Catholic Church had not been able to form a position on the subject. She even quoted St. Augustine (and even the Archbishop of the Catholic archdiocese in Denver, Colorado had no idea whether the irrelevant reference was accurate) for the proposition that human life does not begin until age 3 months. This was in support of Barack "World" Obama's monstrous statement that it was "above his pay grade" to have any opinion on when human life begins, and that he did not know. This, of course, supports the monstrous, extreme pro-abortion position that abortion (killing) is acceptable up to the moment the umbilical cord is cut, because (implied here, although the argument is explicitly stated by Garrett Hardin in his leftist tract/book called "Stalking the Wild Taboo") a human baby is not really a human being, but it is convenient to use birth a place to ASSUME human life begins.
Numerous Catholic spokespersons, including that Archbishop of the archdiocese in Denver, Colorado, set Pelosi straight on the doctrine of the Catholic Church. As the Archbishop said, it is one of the FUDNAMENTAL beliefs of the Catholic Church that human life begins atconception. That has been the posiiton of the Catholic Church (once the ONLY Christian Church) since the 1st Century A.D.--some TWO THOUSAND years. The Arch bishop said that Pelosi was not only wrong about the teaching of the Catholic Church, but that she could not be regarded as a Catholic if she believes the way she says she does. The Archbishop expressed doubts about Joe Biden as well, but (correctly) suggested that he would have to know more about Biden's views before saying he could not receive Communion and not be regarded as a legitimate Catholic.
Note that the main issue here is not whether the Catholic Church is right on abortion. The issue is that Pelosi LIED about the position of the Catholic Church for POLITICAL purposes. Yet, for the most part, the media fails to PRESS leftist Democrats on why they are not LYING HYPOCRITES for claiming to be Catholic, while not really accepting the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Pelosi just went further than most, because she is stupider than most, in lying about the Catholic Church.
Go back to that quote at the beginning of this entry. Note how Pelosi LLIED about both her "Catholic Upbringing" and the doctrine of free will. We know she lied about the "upbringing", because she had to back off of her "Meet the Press" statements after all of those Catholic bishops and archbishops challenged her. She admitted that she was aware of the position of the Catholic Church that human life begins at conception, but that "many Catholics" disagree with that view. However, she admitted that here own family had questioned her views as she deviated from church teaching. Now go back to what the Archbishop said in Denver. Do "many Catholics" "disagree" with the Catholic Church? ONLY if they don't want to consider themselves Catholics anymore. Anyone expressing Peloisi's views isupposed to be excluded from the sacraments of the Catholic Church, and basically told that they should examine whether they really belong in the Catholic Church.
I "believe" in "free will". It is virtually the ONLY Christian, or "religious", principle which I assume to be true as a matter of FAITH--although I come to this conclusion based on reason. Does it make any sense to argue about, or even discuss, issues if no one has free will? Of course not. If you don't have free will, then you don't have any CHOICE in what you believe, or how you argue from those beliefs. NOTHING can possibly be your FAULT, because you have NO CHOICE. Thus, the only thing that makes any sense is to ASSUME (have "aith") that you have free will, because otherwise what you think and do is not within our control. Yes, that means that the only assumption that makes sense is to assume EVERYONE has free will, and is responsible for what they do. If they don't, nothing we do or say matters. If they do, then what we say and do does matter. Therefore, we must assume (have "faith" again) that the only set of circumstances that MATTERS (free will) is actually a correct assumption of REALITY. Note that his is true even if free will exists in part and does not exist in part, because we cannot KNOW which is which, AND because we want to EXPAND the area in which free will operates, to the extent possible. Note that I CAN'T be "AT FAULT" (wrong in any real sense) for believing in free will, since I have NO CHOICE, but I CAN be wrong for "believing" (a non sequitur in terms of having any choice, if my "belief is correct) that free will does not exist. In other words, a person who fails to believe in free will can never get any CREDIT for being "right", because he had no choice (without free will) but to believe what he blieves.
The above is MY only "faith". However, I am an agnostic. Just look at how close Pelosi came to expressing MY agnostic philosophy (which is that we have a responsibility to use our own minds, whether God exists or not). I have (loosely) described my philosphy, AND PELOSI'S, as: I DON'T CARE WHAT GOD THINKS. If God exists, I will try to explain it to Him at the necessary time.
How did Pelosi LIE about the Catholic doctrine of free will, as she LIED about the Catholic position on abortion? Easy. Yes, the Catholic Church, and most Christian churces, "believe" in free will, although I think they have trouble reconciling that with the idea that God KNOWS the future. However, look at the KIND of "free will" that Pelosi was talking about. Yes, you have the "free will" to REJECT the Catholic Church. But where does God, or the Catholic Church, say that if you ACCEPT the Catholic Church, you have the "right" to REJECT the teachings of the Church? NOWHERE does God say that. If you REJECT the teachings of the Catholic Church, you may be exercising your free will, BUT YOU ARE NOT A CATHOLIC. If you assert the "right" to "live your own life", and "account" to God IN THE END (rather than following the teachings of God's Church in the way you live your life), then YOU ARE NOT RELIGIOUS AT ALL. You are the same as me. YOU DON'T CARE WHAT GOD THINKS. The difference: You and Pelosi are HYPOCRITES.
Yes, it is time to announce where the Flying, Fickle Finger of Fate pointed Saturday, when it stopped spinning. As suggested earlier, there was never any doubt. It was always going to point at Nancy "Total Failure" "Pope" Pelosi. The "Pope" nickname was added because Pelosi asserted the ability to speak FOR the Catholic Church--especially when what she said were LIES about the Catholic Church, or said in total ignorance (BOTH being the most likely conclusion). As I have said, I was "raised Presbyterian", but I know more about the Catholic Church (doctrine anyway) than Pelosi ever knew.
This assertion of the "right" to LIE for an entire CHURCH for POLITICAL purposes makes Pelosi the most worthy "winner" of the "Finger" yet. As you should know by now, the "Finger" is this blog's reincarnation of the old "Laugh In" award represented by a statuette of a pointing INDEX finger, The award is for truly outstanding stupidity and/or EVIL in the preceding week. The person or organization at which the "Finger" points, when it stops spinning each Saturday, is ordinarily announced on either Saturday or Sunday. However, the announcement is belated this time because of activities distracting me on Labor Day weekend. The award will presumably be on time next week, and thereafter (until the next distraction caused delay).
Award ceremony:
Again, this is a ceremony taking place entirely in the IMAGINATION, with no video or graphics. I have suggested that you use the visual memory of Dick Martin presenting the "Finger" to "winners" on Laugh In" as a VISUAL AID, although Martin and "Laugh In" have no connection at all to this reincarnation of their concept. Of course, if you never saw any such presentation on "Laugh In", perhaps because you are not even old enough to have seen it, then you REALLY have to use your imagination here. Just imagine a smug, brash, Adam Sandler type presenting a statuette of a pointing finger.
So IMAGINE Dick Martin THRUSTING the "Finger" at the camera and saying: "Nancy 'Total Failure" "Pope" Pelosi, this award is for YOU. You DESERVE it. Elmer Gantry was more religious than you are, and more CATHOLIC than you are."
Return next Saturday or Sunday to see where the "Finger" stops next time.
Here is last week's entry which caused the "Finger" to stop where it did on Saturday:
Nancy "Total Failure" "Pope" Pelosi: Catholic? NO
Nancy "Total Failure" "Pope" Pelosi is the only politician to qualify for TWO nicknames in this blog--fully deserving both of them. As far as I know, Pelosi still professes to be a Catholic, but see the quote from her aat the end of this entry (a quote which repudiates the whole rationale of the Catholic Church, and ANY organized religion). Her appearance on Meet the Press on Sunday shows she is not only NOT a Catholic, but is willing to LIE about the religion (or is so stupid that she is incapable of knowing what the truth is).
Nancy "Pope" Pelosi was askedabout Barack "World" Obama's statement that he did not have any idea when human life began, since that was a question "above his pay grade". See the entries in the blog last week. WHY is infanticide a crime, then? WHY do BOTH parents not have the "right to choose" AFTER the baby is born (since there is no scientific doubt that the SAME creature exists right before the umblilical cord is cut as after the umbilical cord is cut). Nope. Pelosi was not asked THOSE questions, but the answer to the question she was asked was revealing enough.
Do you consider yourself a monster? Does Pelosi consider herself a monster? Did Thomas Jefferson consider himself a monster for owning slaves? Of course not, and overall very few people are monsters (I admit to doubts about Pelosi). Mon-monsters can believe in, and do, monstrous things. It is a monstrous thing to believe that killing a newborn baby is infanticide, but that it is a matter of "choice" to kill that SAME creature the instant before it is born. There is certainly no LOGIC to that position, but you won't believe how Pelosi tried to justify herself.
There is FIRST the problem that if you DON'T KNOW whether you are committing MURDER, what business do you have doing it, or does society have allowing you to do it? Since Pelosi is not smart enough to even see this problem, she did not address it.
What she did was to expand upon Obama's monstrous assertion with even more monstrous assertions of her own (more monstrous because they were lies). She repeated the assertion that people throughout history have disagreed on when life begins. People throughout history have disagreed on lots of things. They have disagreed on slavery. They have disagreed on polygamy. They have disagreed on incest (accepted in ancient Egypt, where Cleopatra married her brother--before killing him). Interestingly enough, they have NOT disagreed on homosexual marriage, which has NEVER been accepted in ALL of human history. However, Pelosi went further and said that she had STUDIED the subject, and that the CATHOLIC CHURCH has never determined when human life begins.
What can you say about a woman like that? Stupid? Dishonest? Pope (in her own mind)? Certainly all of those.
Who sets the position of the Catholic Church on doctrine? Is it Nancy Pelosi? Nope. It is the POPE. Further, when the Pope puts on his "infallible" hat, he is speaking the Word of God--he cannot be wrong. What has the Pope said on when life begins, as the OFFICIAL position on DOCTRINE of the Catholic Church? Right. Everyone BUT Pelosi knows that it is the official position of the Catholic Church that life begins at conception.
Pelosi said that St. Augustine suggested that human life (soul) begins at 3 months (WHY is infanticide a crime?). I have no idea whether St. Augustine really said that, and what ELSE he may have said on the subject (as I am certain Pelosi does not, being interested only in pro-abortion propanda). But so what. Pelosi seems to be saying that if ANY Catholic theologian has contradicted official church doctrine, then there is NO "position" on the subject on the part of the Church. In what FANTASY world does this woman live?
Oh, that is not the end. Pelosi goes on to suggest that the anti-abortion people (translation here: the CATHOLIC CHURCH) worry just as much about contraception as abortion--another outright LIE. But why keep going? The woman DOES believe in a religion: the religion of LEFTISTFEMINISM. She believes in no other religion, although she is willing to speak FOR the Catholic Church (misrepresenting it).
Do you doubt me on this (you really are a FOOL, aren't you)? Consider what Pelosi said when asked about the Catholic movement to religiously SANCTION Catholic politicians who vote and speak in favor of abortion (which means, despite Pelosi, that they are contradicting their own religion). Here is what Pelosi said:
" I believe that my position on choice is one that is consistent with my Catholic upbringing, which said that every person has a free will and has the responsibility to live their own lives in a way that they would have to account for in the end."
I could not have said it better myself, as to why I am an AGNOSTIC, as Pelosi clearly is (at least as to organized religion). You can't say something like the above and stillclaim to believe in ANY organized religion. "Free will" (as to whether to accept church doctrine)? "Responsibility to live their own lives"? This woman goes beyond me. Like most leftists, she does not LIKE religion--regards it as an actual evil thing when it contradicts HER. I have no coubt that this woman is really an anti-religious BIGOT (which I am not)
I have mentioned before the question my college philosophy professor asked: Is something right because God says so, or does God say so because it is right." This is less profound than it sounds, since to a truly religious person God is the SOURCE of all goodness and right. So the question is nonsense. However, if you believe--as I do--that the essence of the human mind is to develop its OWN conclusions, rather than accept dictatorial instructions from God, then the question becomes crucial. Nancy Pelosi obviously believes as I do, although I think with less tolerance for people who believe differently. She is just DISHONEST about it (even to herself?).
Yes, this philosophy means that it does not much matter to me whether God exists, because He has to CONVINCE me of right and wrong anyway, on a case by case basis. You will not that Pelosi clearly feels the same way--incompatible with ANY organized religion. It . is not enough for me, orPelosi, that God says so.
What is funny is that God has convinced me (if you want to look at it that way) more successfully than He seems to have convinced MOST CHRISTIANS in the U.S., in areas of morality where the church to which these people belong has a position. I don't "believe in" premarital sex. I think that is still the position of most Christian faiths in this country, but not of most Christians. I vehemently oppose abortion. I don't believe society should APPROVE homosexual conduct. And so on. IN short, on right and wrong I pretty much believe, on other than directly religious questions, the same as FUNDAMENTALIST Christian churches. Yet, on religion itself I think I am pretty much in tune with what members of "liberal" churches REALLY believe--not to mention people, like Pelosi, who profess to belong to relatively conservative churches, but don't really believe. Doyou understand why I RESPECT "fundamentalist" Christians who LIVE their religion (or try to), even if I am not comfortable with their fiath. At the same time, I do NOT respect the people who believe the same as I do (really) on religion, but PRETEND otherwise.
Ironic, isn't it. But there is nothing ironic about the stupidity of Nancy Pelosi, She is a national disgrace.
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